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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
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Posted - 2013.09.21 17:50:00 -
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Marnian Veroe wrote: Stay the hell away, keep your boots out of our homes, or this is not going to be pretty.
And they call us imperialists.
Well, Federal boots haven't kept out of homes in Black Rise.
You should be glad though, Caldari corporate security forces are well versed in the maintaining of civil order -- peace is their profession after all -- as opposed to the drug induced junkies and barely trained conscripts the Federation uses for occupying duties under CEWPA.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
742
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Posted - 2013.09.21 19:05:00 -
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Marnian Veroe wrote:
Yes right.
The same way that Caldari provists lynching mobs and shooting journalists systematically proves that all Caldari ground forces are amateurs, right ?
The same way that Caldari have always been famous for their ground doctrines ?
Don't make me laugh. They will be slaughtered like they have been since the beginning of that war every time they stepped up on this planet. The fact that we too lose our lives will not make our resolve dwindle.
No need to be so upset, dear, the Provists are no longer with the State.
You are correct in some cases however that operational doctrines regarding the occupation of Federal territories was in error. Personally I would promote a different course of action. Simply utilize an effective hostage collar system I would say. I would say it's proven that acts of civil disobedience, dissent against lawful authority, and acts of terrorism or sabotage are significantly reduced when the consequences are retaliatory activations of such systems. The threat of loved ones facing decapitation via shaped explosive charges is a fantastic incentive to maintain the compliance of colonial populations.
However, these are merely hypothetical thoughts, current capabilities of my organization are insufficient to maintain long-term occupation of Mantenault.
If this fact does change in future, then indeed, I would very much look forward to a long, productive, and prosperous relationship between myself and the people of the Mantenault system.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
745
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Posted - 2013.09.21 20:25:00 -
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Oniseki-haani,
You appear to be under the misconception that I care about the Mantenault system due to its present elections, or indeed that I have any care for the political processes of its citizens one way or another. My interests lie only in the fact that Mantenault is at present slated for potential Corporate Asset Realization Operations to be undertaken in future once Pyre Falcon Defence Combine is deemed in a position to enact effective pacification. A change in political leadership would of course affect just how that pacification should or would occur, and the relative compliance of its local government to a stable, ordered, and productive working relationship with Combine forces.
I'm certain there are parties or candidates that are more or less willing to enter into the securitized debt arrangements at the core of such an Asset Realization Operation in the Mantenault system. This would also affect how more or less persuasive I might have to be in a potential negotiation prior to authorizing such an operation in the future.
It's certainly no cause for alarm or histrionics, my dear. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
745
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:34:00 -
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Augustus Inhonores wrote:The Elusenian Directorate has communicated the above developments to the Agora, where our position in Mantenault will be re-assessed over the course of the next twenty-four hours. Elusenia remains committed to upholding the indigenous political order regardless of planet or star system, and doubly so is it committed to its honourable agreements forged with foreign states, as we have with Mantenault VI. At the same time, Elusenia must equally remain committed to our policy of neutrality. We express dismay at the duplicity of Pyre-Falcon's intentions as exhibited by the dissonant postings put forward by Colonel Pieter Tuulinen and Executor Veikitamo Gesakaarin, and hope that wiser thoughts will prevail.
Director-General Augustus Inhonores Cooperative Republic of Elusenia
There is no dissonance or duplicity in my statements when I have already made my intentions clear in Section VI of the following press release on 18 June YC 115, available here.
My position and goals have not changed since that date, M. Inhonores.
But permit me to indulge you, do you believe I have changed them given what I have expressed in this communique? |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
748
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:18:00 -
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Augustus Inhonores wrote: What defines non-compliance? On what moral basis can Pyre-Falcon justify designating civilians as enemy combatants on this nebulous concept of 'non-compliance'? Generally speaking, enemy combatants are members of opposing national militaries or armed insurgents.
The moral basis of Martial Law is usually to be found not in a textbook, but in what an military organization deems to be the law. If and when AR&P operations are conducted in Federal or Republic territories by Pyre Falcon Defence Combine, it will consider the territory it occupies during such operations as its own. It will outline the articles of that law to the local populace in a designated zone of occupation. These laws are designed to ensure the safety of both civilians and corporate assets in a military zone. Failure to comply with those articles will lead to designations as enemy combatants due to presenting clear and present security risks to corporate personnel.
As for war crimes. Present me with the legal documents you believe that defines what war crimes are and which Pyre Falcon Defence Combine is signatory to.
Note: I don't operate under the laws or rules of the Gallente Federation.
Have a nice day, M. Inhonores
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
751
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Posted - 2013.09.23 11:37:00 -
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In response to M. Thiesant:
Laurentis Thiesant wrote: After all, implementing Kaalakiota martial law on a planet which, even under Caldari law, may not be owned by Kaalakiota anymore may be a massive oversight which could result in a massive reputational hit for Pyre-Falcon. Talk about a public and massive mistake waiting to happen.
Allow me to express amusement at your rather obvious ignorance of the private military industry, and as it applies to the State in particular. Did you ever pause to consider that not being beholden to public opinion is one of the many reasons the services I provide are in demand? I don't sell consumer goods, and the business of privatized force and violence does not require a positive profile with the general public because it is not the general public that makes use of such services.
Now that's professionally. Personally, it would be a massive mistake waiting to happen to project your own moral, ethical, or legal views as a Federal citizen upon myself. I was not raised in the Federation. My values are not your own. I was raised and taught in an environment that it does not matter how well liked you may or may not be, so long as the job is done. I'm not here to be other people's friends. I'm not here for vainglorious pursuits. I'm not here to seek adulation. What I am here to do, in the position I currently hold, is to do my job whose underlying philosophy is exactly the same as when I was in the Navy, in corporate law, in a mergers and acquisition firm, or doing venture capital investment:
Kill. Or be killed.
My shareholders and my clients do not expect me to be well liked. They care not how many faux friends I am able to cultivate on my social media profile (If I had one). I am tasked with ensuring the viability and profitability of the organization I lead on behalf of its stakeholders. Nothing more, nothing less. In my occupation, ruthlessness is a required trait. If I was unable to act without mercy and compassion in the prosecution of the interests of my stakeholders then I would I say I would be remiss in my own duties and would have failed to meet my obligations. Your assertion that I am in breach of any shareholder agreement is incorrect for Pyre Falcon Defence Combine is not a public company, and its share prices are not subject to the vagaries of the media, opinion, or speculation.
As for claims of illegality due to the revoking of development rights by the former Executor: This was done under dubious legality by an office that no longer exists. Neither the CEP as a whole nor its constituent members have officially rescinded their claims or rights to development of Federal systems. The notion that Caldari Megacorporations would continue to follow the diktats of a man and office that have been dissolved or would cede rights purchased due to them, I would regard to be absolute nonsense. Pyre Falcon Defence Combine will maintain the position that any and all directives issued by the Office of Executor to be null and void. As such, it will continue to recognize the purchased development rights of all Megacorporations and will construct its operations upon that basis.
Additionally, the arrangement between the Intaki Assembly and Ishukone Corporation is specific only to the Intaki Assembly and Ishukone Corporation. It is a model, and one that might even be said to work well for the parties involved. It is by no means the precedent for State law, nor is it the only model that can be used between Caldari corporations and Federal worlds in the CEWPA zone. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
754
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:47:00 -
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Marnian Veroe wrote: We respect your will to set up your law in conquered worlds, but it does not mean it is legal under intergalactic law. Your law, against ours. Your dead, against ours.
I'm glad you finally accept the political and military paradigm your world finds itself under, Mlle. Veroe. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
755
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Posted - 2013.09.24 03:51:00 -
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Marnian Veroe wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:Marnian Veroe wrote: We respect your will to set up your law in conquered worlds, but it does not mean it is legal under intergalactic law. Your law, against ours. Your dead, against ours.
I'm glad you finally accept the political and military paradigm your world finds itself under, Mlle. Veroe. The only one denying it was your Tuulinen pilot.
And he is certainly welcome to his own opinions. As to whether or not I personally prescribe to them in the prosecution of my duties and my tasks is another matter altogether.
My own opinion is that the future history between the State and Federation is to be written in blood. It will matter little what pointed words are to be said, only the pointed bullets that will be used.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
762
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Posted - 2013.09.24 19:45:00 -
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Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:How edgy.
For a man whose entire life appears to be the continued vainglorious pursuit for attention and adulation leading only to an existence as a celebrity mediocrity due to being a talentless hack, it is understandable that such is the only assessment possible for one such as yourself. Indeed, I would say that a man who seeks only fame and the massaging of their ego like yourself would judge that such are the sole motivations in others.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
762
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Posted - 2013.09.24 20:28:00 -
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Marnian Veroe wrote:
We do not mind that. We are rather confident in the superiority of our culture and military might if the Gallente state sees it worth the trouble.
As far as the policies of my own party have always put a strong emphasis on principles of nationality - which means the independence of the Caldari if so they wish - the smallest threat coming from them should be met with relentless military responses.
To live a life of true purpose to one's people and nation demands conflict and the shedding of blood. Your sense of patriotism is admirable. I look forward to the day I may be granted the opportunity to test your resolve, just as you shall have the opportunity to test mine. |
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
771
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Posted - 2013.09.25 20:27:00 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Marnian Veroe wrote: Then I guess you must hate yourself as well.
Are we actually down to "I know you are, but what am I"? Can this thread end already before people start throwing sticks at eachother?
This is the IGS. I think the other great rhetorical tool is: "No you."
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